A Place to Live

The housing system with Native American tribes can be a complicated one. But today we'll hear of a haunting experience even after a place to live was secured. My name is Edwin, and here is Sarah's true scary story. Back in two thousand and eight, my mom and I we moved from her hometown to my hometown. My hometown is northern Montana, on a Native American Indian reservation. A lot of times on Indian reservations, it's hard to have like fine rental opportunities just because most reservations, because it's like sovereign land and tribal land. If we have like tribal housing systems and stuff like that, or it's just like generational family homes that people just live in through the years, you really won't find too much opportunity for renting unless it's like a sort of a bigger city area. But this wasn't. This was like a up in the mountains, very secluded, just this like small town at the base of the Rockies. So we moved there. When we first got there, it was hard because we couldn't find anywhere to rent and we were just trying to get back on our feet. Then after a while, though, we found my grandma. My grandma let us stay with her for a time. However, my grandma my mom growing up, they had some like tens issues and stuff that they went through. We knew that it was going to be a really temporary situation that we had to find something fast, and we stayed with her. My mom got a job at a hardware store. I started school in the area. But because of my mom's a single parent, like she was a single parent raising me, my mom was like looking for a place because stuff was starting to get tense at my grandma's place, and she started like searching around, and eventually she found this ad from this lady who was renting out this two story house that she had. My mom she got in touch with her and I went to see it, and then come to find out, this lady didn't actually live in the house that she was renting. She lived in a trailer that was next door. So that was our first red flag of okay, like why doesn't she live in this house. But because at the time, we were like desperate to find something and we would just have intense times with my grandma, so we took it and we moved in and then after that is when I had to start going to school and then coming home by myself. For those couple of hours when my mom was at work after school, she would still be at work, and so I would have to come to the house by myself, and so I would be there anytime from three point thirty to six o'clock by myself. For those couple hours there, I was always by myself. I would say about after the first month of living there is when I started hearing like sometimes I would hear like little whispers, and then most often I would hear footsteps in the kitchen. I would always get up and I would go and look in the kitchen because I'm like, is there somebody here? Did my mom come home? Because we had a back door that you have to go into the kitchen to get to it, and so I thought maybe my mom used the back door, but there was never anybody there. I was hearing them every day, and it got so bad to the point where I would I didn't know what was like a supernatural thing. So I would sit in the living room a little weapon like a knife or a fork or something sharp that I could defend myself with. As an eight year old kid at the time, and I was I would just sit there paranoid until my mom came back from her job. For a really long time, I lived in fear, in paranoia, and at one point I heard what sounded like dishes clanging in the sink. There was one time when I heard something like that and I couldn't. I got really like spooked because I went inside the kitchen again. The sink didn't have any dishes, and so that was kind of like what the heck. I got really scared, and then I went outside because I was like, okay, like I'm going to wait for my mom. I ended up blocking myself outside. It was winter. It was winter in up in the Northern Rocky so it was really cold, and so I sat out there for it must have been like two hours waiting for my mom. But I was too scared to go back in the house. Finally, about I would say two months into living two and a half months of living there, this lady came to the hardware store my mom worked, and she had this accidental litter of puppies and she was trying to get rid of them, and so she was just giving them away, and she had this one, this little puppy, and my mom she decided to take it because she wanted me to have a companion at the house, and so she took it from that lady. She brought it home that day and it was like a little puppy. It was a little Jack Russell terrier. I named it Buster. After school, me and Buster would hang out at the house and we would just I would just take care of this puppy. And at first, for like the first week or so, it was fine, but then after that I noticed it started to get more aggressive. I would hear like dishes clean and there would be no dishes. I would hear footsteps and they would sound like they're getting closer to me rather than just staying in the kitchen. But usually when it would happen, there was like the living room setup was like vintage. So there was this old, like burnt orange leather chair next to this wall that was next to this little corridor that led into the dining room because the dining room and the kitchen were separate, and then there was a little couch in the corner. It was a love seat, and it was one of those floral ones from back in the day where this burnt orange chair was I would always sit there and directly like off to my right, like maybe ten feet was the kitchen corridor. And so when I would sit there after school and I would hear these footsteps, I would hear it coming from my write ear I would hear like footsteps, like just over and over again. And I got really paranoid at that because at first, like I said, I thought it was somebody either my truting. I thought it was my mom coming home earlier or something, and I would just I would never see anybody every time I checked. And as a little kid, I was eight years old at the time, I didn't know anything really about the supernatural. I wasn't really versed in that like I am now. I didn't ever really consider that it could have been like the supernatural or ghost or demon, spirit or whatever the case may be until after I got the puppy. And then things started to get a lot more aggressive. After I got the puppy, like a couple of weeks in, we started hearing the whispers and the footsteps, and I started carrying the dishes even though there were no dishes. I got really spooked with me and my dog, and we were sitting downstairs in the living room and we were hearing these footsteps, and so I decided, okay, like, I'm gonna go upstairs and upstairs to get up there, there's a staircase, but the staircase doesn't have a railing, so it was just like a straight shot from the side of the stairs to the floor. And so I went upstairs with my puppy and we went into the upstairs bedroom and I locked myself in there with him. We just sat in there and watched movies for a while. I was trying to go downstairs to grab something, and I was trying to coax Buster to come out with me because I didn't want to go down there along, but he was too scared. So I would open the door and I'd be like, come on, and I would do all these calls to him, and he just wouldn't move, like he was terrified to come out there with me. And so eventually I was like, Okay, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna do this real quick. I'll be right back, like it shouldn't be no problem. And then I go. I walk out to the top of the staircase, and as I'm approaching the staircase and looking down I see this like flash of black from the my preferal vision, and it was so strange because it was like I got this not really a sense of dread, but like a sense of like anxiety, like something was about to happen. And then right after that, I feel like this force of against me. It's like somebody I don't know, I don't even know how to scribe as like a wind or something. But I didn't seel like a physical push, but it felt like a wind. And then once I felt this wind, I had somehow I ended up slipping and I fell all the way down the stairs. And at one point when I was going down the stairs, I was like close to the side where there was no railing, and so if I would have slipped just a little bit, I would have fallen to the floor. But thankfully during that time, like my mom, you know, she raised me to call on Jesus because she raised me as a Christian, And so while I was going down, I was like, oh my gosh, my God help me. I ended up making it to the bottom of the stairs. I wasn't like hurt or anything. I was very frightened, but I got this feeling like this gut feeling suddenly to lean forward. The setup of the staircase is that the staircase with no railing, and then at the bottom of the stairs there's this giant horse picture. It's like a painting of a horse, and it's in this really thick like bronze frame and it was attached to the wall like right at the base of the staircase. I came and I landed and like hit the wall like with my back, and then I got that gut feeling Okay, get up, get up now, and so I do, and as I'm like moving forward with my back, the picture of the horse it comes off the nail and it lands like right behind me. If I didn't listen to the gut feeling, I would have gotten hit with that bronze frame. I get up and I'm like, I'm frightened. I start crying because like at that point I figured out, okay, this is I can't ignore this. Whatever this is, like, I can't ignore it. Finally, I tell my mom and I'm like, Mom, like this stuff is happening in this house. I don't w know what's going on. She kind of had an idea that it was going on, but like she couldn't. She'd ignored it at the time because we were in that desperate situation. But once I told her, like what was going on, that's when she was like, okay, Like we need to anoint the house. To anoint a house a way to protect and keep evil away and drive out on welcome entities in a house with oil is using Christian religions. But what this unleashes, at least in this case, something that nobody was expecting. The rest of Sarah's story is coming up right after this stay with us. 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After that, for a couple of weeks, it was things went well like We didn't have really any encounters after that until one night my mom and I we slept in the same bedroom at the time, and I woke up and I hear this this almost like this raspberry noise, and I share this really harsh breathing followed by these like raspberry sounds, and so I look over because my mom and I had two twin beds and if they were separate from on either side of the room, I look over to her and she's almost like she's snoring, but she's not. So she would breathe and then when she would bliw the air out, it would be like like that, over and over again. At first, I thought it was funny, so I woke her up. I was like, well, what's going on. She didn't think much of it, and we went back to sleep. I was laying there at wake for a little bit because I was just now trying to go back to sleep and stuff like that, and then I hear it again and I look over and she's doing the same thing. So I keep waking her up. At first, she wants me to leave her alone, she's annoyed, but it just kept happening like a couple of times. At that point, I wake her up and I'm like, are you okay. She's like, I don't know. She felt like some sort of like somebody was like moving her lips while she was trying to sleep. At that point, I got pretty spooked. Another thing about this room is that it's like in the attic sort of and in this one corner of the room there's this gaia wall mirror. I look at the mirror and I see this like that same like flash, not a shadow, but like a black flash. I get scared, and I'm like, okay, like we need to do something, like we need to annoy the house again. We need to do something because whatever was here before we anointed the house, it's back. At that point, my mom was, Okay, I think we need to move because whatever this is, it's bound to the house. And so we start figuring out how we're gonna move out. And it was a really hard situation to be in because we were on the tribal housing list, but the tribal housing list was like years long, so even though we were in line to get a house, it wouldn't be for like a couple of years, and like I said, there was no rental opportunities. We just left her home and our place over there to come all the way out here. We didn't really have anything to go back to. Eventually, though, my mom she started calling around to some of her friends that she grew up with, and this lady that she's a nurse in this town that we lived in, and her and I and my mom we all kind of knew each other, like when I was little and I was really little. This nurse lady, she's okay, like you could come stay with us. And so we start packing our things, start trying to get out of this house. And we call Elaine, which is the lady that rented us the house in the first place. We asked her, like, okay, you don't live in this house, but there's things that's going on in this house. Can we tell us like maybe why? Is there any sort of reason? Maybe? She said that her family they're very traditional, like Native American traditions, and so they would practice ceremonies and stuff inside the house. Of course, the history with the Native Americans and Christianity and colonization and stuff like that, it's not an easy history. There's a lot of bad blood in that. What we figured out from that is, Okay, whatever spirit is getting released from the ceremonies that are being practiced in this house before we moved in, that it doesn't like this because we're Christians. At that point, I'm like, okay, we know what's going on. We're going to move out. So we start packing up our things. On the last night before we move out to my mom's friend's house, I'm in the living room again and I'm packing up something, and my mom's in the kitchen and our dog, he has a little litter box and a little pea pat inside of the dining room area, and so he's in there and we're over here packing and then all of a sudden, I start hearing my dog whimpering like really loud, like it sounded like he was in pain. I run into the dining room and my mom comes and she follows me, and we see my dog and he's laid out like flat. He's laid out flat on the floor and he's whimpering in pain like he's being stepped on. I'm terrified. I'm crying, and I'm like, Mom, like, what's going on? My mom. She steps in and she starts rebuking the devil. She starts casting out evil spirit stuff like that, and whatever was stepping on my dog, it stops. But at that point we knew, Okay, if we don't hurry up and get all the way packed up and leave tonight, because it was like ten o'clock at night at that point, on the last night that we were there, if we don't lead tonight like whatever this is, it's going to manifest further and it's going to probably attack one of us. We got packed up as fast as we could, and then we left that night to my mom's friend's house. And my mom's friend's house is it's a little bit of a ways out of town, so we had to drive out of town about ten miles in the dark to get to her house. In our perspective, it was much better than staying in that house until morning. I remember when I was in boarding school, I told it just as a fun, little scary stories night that we were having. And at first, yeah, they're spooped. We've only maybe told like a handful of people about it, and at first they're spooped and they're entertained. But then we tell them like what we did to get rid of it, like anointing the house and praying it out and rebuking evil spirits and stuff like that, and then immediately they shut us down because it's that's not how we do it or that's not what we practice, so we don't believe in that. And so I don't think that's the reason then, especially because I went to a Native American boarding school, and so when I would tell the other Native students, okay, we figured out like it was whenever spirits were released from them doing ceremonies in the house, doesn't like us because we're Christians. They would get on the defense like, oh no, that's not true, and they would just attack us for our faith. At the end of the day, we know what we went through and we know what happened in that house. We haven't really told anybody in a really long time. Is actually the first time I'm talking about it in maybe five years. I hadn't really heard other similar stories as specific in the sense like Native American spirits or anything. But what I know is that when you do like Native American ceremonies a lot of time, as likely as Christians, we believe that it conjures up evil spirits, poltergeist doing as far as things like that, those things get sent out and released wherever they're planted, which is that's why these places have attachments like that, just because the ceremonies they're considered very sacred. When you have a sacred ceremony at a certain location, a lot of times that location, I've noticed it either kind of withers, like if it's on a piece of land, the land will wither. We have a mountain up in Browning, which is where I'm from, my hometown that we moved into, and there's a mountain on the base of the Rockies called Chief Mountain. Back in the early nineties, they went up there and it's like a At the time, it was like a really tall sort of plateau mountain. But at the time in the early nineties they went and they did ceremonies up there, and then shortly after they did ceremonies up there, a part of the mountain fell off, so now it's a shorter plateau than it was in the early nineties. Then that house too. We went back in twenty nineteen for Powow, which is like a reunion for the tribe and we all get together and we sing songs and do dances and stuff like that. So we went back there in twenty nineteen and we went past the house, and it looks pretty much in the same position like condition that it was when we left in two thousand and eight. And I have seen like cars and stuff in front of it, so I know that she probably rented it out to somebody else. So I don't really know how they're doing inside that house, But every time we drive past it, I still get that like haunting, traumatizing dread from my time there and what I experienced. Every time I've moved into a new place, or I even when I go to a new place like a school or somewhere where I'm going to be spending an extended period of time, I always take anointing oil with me, and I always pray off the place first thing when I get there now, just because it's it helps sure. If there's things attached to those spaces, they do come back. But if you keep anointing the place out every few weeks or so, I've noticed that it stays clean and peaceful for a lot longer. By the time I'm out of there, It's like I haven't really experienced much, and so I'm really grateful for that. My mom, she's kind of always been in touch with the supernatural since she was a little girl, because when she was a little girl, she had some traumas and stuff like that happened to her and it just opened her worlds up to we live in two different realms, and especially as Native Americans, like we know we lived in two different realms when one is the supernatural realm and then one is the reality realm. When I was in college actually, and she visited me, she was in my dorm room and she was saying like, Okay, I'm seeing like this dark shadow. I'm seeing this dark shadow. She kept telling me that, and me at the time, I had annoys it out and so I didn't really feel anything. But she kept saying that she would see these things, these dark shadows, and she would go through she would pray the place out, and then after that it would pretty much be gone and we wouldn't really feel any presences for a really long time. She's always been really in touch with the supernaturals. Every now and then, she still does have those experiences where she'll see shadows or she'll have dreams about the supernatural, and it's really worked for her because she's very in tune. Like she, you can discern things really easily. For a long time, I've had like anxiety from the whole experience to where it was hard to express my feelings just because of how they were received when I first told people about this in boarding school and how they got really defensive and mad at me for it when it was my fault. But that caused me to have some anxiety for a really long time that I think I'm just now coming out of. And I really believe that talking about it today is one of the steps that I'm taking to just be more vulnerable about my experiences and what I went through in that house. Thank you so much for letting me come on and just say that, because I think it's really important to like let people know, Okay, Yeah, attachments can be a part of places, they can be a part of people, and you need to watch out for yourself as far as the supernatural realm goes, because supernatural realm is just as real as reality. Subscribe to the podcast for free to get next week's story. To share your own, visit me at True Scarystory dot com. You can get ad free episodes through scaryplus dot com or directly through our Apple podcast channel. Try it for free and know that your support helps keep the show going up. Next, check out my other shows from scary FM. We're launching a new one soon and that's also thanks to our Scary Plus members. Thank you very much for listening, see us soon.