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[00:00:36] [SPEAKER_00] And it feels like multiple hands are touching my back, trying to grab my arms, my legs, and I can barely walk. Whatever this is wants me to stay here in this basement.
[00:00:50] [SPEAKER_02] When she was studying abroad, she realized that there was something strange in the apartment. Something that would torment her, and to this day still defies any logical explanation. My name is Edwin, and here is Carmen's true, scary story.
[00:01:14] [SPEAKER_00] Every time I tell this story, something weird happens. My story happened near Humboldt University in Berlin, Germany in 2018. I lived in a neighborhood called Schoenenberg. It's the same neighborhood that David Bowie used to live in, so it's a pretty famous neighborhood. I was an exchange student for study abroad.
[00:01:43] [SPEAKER_00] I would study buildings and what kind of style they were. The building that I was living in at the time, it was post-World War construction. Fairly modern, no Bauhaus design. And it looked like a regular apartment. When I first came in to the apartment, there was barely any electricity. It was really, really dark.
[00:02:10] [SPEAKER_00] When you go study abroad, you usually have like a host family. But I didn't have a host family. I had a host dad, and I'll call him PK. I was with another girl who would be my roommate. And this was a three-bedroom apartment. It had everything you needed, and it was in a really great location. It was pretty close to the university, and I really enjoyed it.
[00:02:38] [SPEAKER_00] But when I first went into this apartment, it was really, really cold. PK said, I don't sleep here at night. I live in another apartment next door. Usually, host families, it's like you stay in the home of someone, and you integrate with the culture. And we thought that was very strange. But PK said, you know, if you need anything, I'm just a call away. If anything happens in the apartment, like, just text or call me. Like, I'll be there.
[00:03:06] [SPEAKER_00] So, I stay in this apartment. And then the next day, I get up, and it's like freezing. I go to touch the radiator, and the radiator's on full blast. I talk to my roommate, and I ask her, do you also feel how cold it is in this apartment? And she goes, yeah, I had to sleep with, like, my winter coat on. I'm like, me too. So we, like, send a message to PK, and he's like, hey, don't worry,
[00:03:34] [SPEAKER_00] I'll send someone to, like, make sure that the heating works. And when PK sent someone to check the radiators in the heating system, the guy who came in said, yeah, it's fine. There's nothing wrong. And I'm like, well, it's so freezing. He's like, well, I don't know. We just kind of lived with it. So at this point, we're like, well, let's, like, check out the full building. This is, like, the second day we're there.
[00:04:00] [SPEAKER_00] We go to the basement because that's where the washing machines are. This basement was so scary. It was packed dirt floor. There wasn't even any electricity running through it. According to PK and other residents, that used to be an old apartment building, and it served as a bomb shelter.
[00:04:27] [SPEAKER_00] So the building, it had the original base or foundation pre-World War II, before, like, 1945. And then they had just built on top of that with the new construction. To get through to the washing machines, which did have electricity, you had to go through all the storage, and you had to use a flashlight. You had all these storage rooms, but they weren't rooms. There was no wall.
[00:04:57] [SPEAKER_00] They just had, like, chicken wire fencing that they would just put their random stuff in, and you'd just have to walk through to do your laundry. It was really scary because it was so dark. You'd just walk in, and it was like you were engulfed in darkness. This is already our second day, so we're already starting off strong here. So at this point, you know what? We're in Berlin, Germany. It's beautiful. It's freezing.
[00:05:25] [SPEAKER_00] Something's always falling out of the sky. Like, people don't realize how cold it is. There's never any sun, and I guess that just added to, like, how scary it was. It's important to note that our university took, like, security really seriously, so our rooms, we could lock it. So the only person who had an extra key wasn't even PK, our host dad, or my roommate. It was the university because they wanted to make sure,
[00:05:54] [SPEAKER_00] you know, that no one's, like, intruding in your room or taking your stuff or moving it around. As I'm getting accustomed to this new place, I have a roommate. You know, we're going to class. Obviously, in my room, there was a window, and I never opened it because it was winter. It was so cold. I would leave, and then I would come back, maybe after a full day of class, and my room would just be a mess. It would be like if someone took all the books
[00:06:23] [SPEAKER_00] that I had left neatly on my desk, it's like if someone just, like, threw it all over. And I thought that was weird, so I asked my roommate, I was like, did you go into my room? Like, I locked my door. She's like, no, Carmen, you know I don't have a key to that. And I was like, oh, did you notice the stuff in your room being touched? She was a smoker. She just smoked cigarettes. So she had, like, 15 lighters, like, in her room, in her jacket pocket. She's like, yeah, I like to smoke.
[00:06:52] [SPEAKER_00] And obviously, like, I smoke with my window open. But every time I try to, like, light up a cigarette and I reach for a lighter, I can't find it. And then I'll find it, like, in the bathroom or in the kitchen of all places that I haven't even left the lighters in there because I always carry it on my person. I'm like, okay, that's weird. We thought maybe, oh, like, maybe we just misplaced our things. You know, maybe there's, like, a current
[00:07:20] [SPEAKER_00] and we just didn't realize it from the pipes. I think, you know, when you talk about hauntings and you're a skeptic, is that you think you're going crazy. You think you have, like, a mental illness. I was so convinced that I had something that I went to a psychiatrist and they said I just had anxiety and that I was fine. A few weeks into staying in this apartment,
[00:07:50] [SPEAKER_00] you know, I've always been super healthy. I never had any issues. I wake up and I have a cyst in my throat the size of a golf ball. So every time I would lay my head down, I couldn't breathe. So at this point, I'm like, I have to go to the ER. I go to the emergency department to a hospital in Berlin, Germany. It was pretty famous. And I tell the intake person, like, at this point, the cyst was so visible
[00:08:19] [SPEAKER_00] that if you just looked at me and looked at my neck, you could see it. They're like, yeah, you need to be hospitalized. We'll check you out. At this point, I was so exhausted. I was like, yes, please take me. I think because of either lack of oxygen or just stress, I passed out. And so they had to, like, you know, do all these, like, CPR and, like, life-saving measures. When you have this near-death experience, I feel like what no one tells you, it, like, shifts the way you think.
[00:08:48] [SPEAKER_00] It shifts your consciousness in a way that you think in ways that you didn't think before. Basically, I was, like, floating, and it was really, really nice. It was, like, in warm water. That's what it felt like. And it feels like you're in a worm hug. There's this lady, and she said, oh, do you want to stay or do you want to go? And I was like, I'm not sure. And she goes, well, why don't you stay? And I stayed.
[00:09:14] [SPEAKER_00] She was wearing traditional, like, Indian garb, and she was wearing a purple, like, sari. I remember because it was, like, this brilliant purple. And I came back, and that's when I woke up. And there's, like, six nurses who are nuns who have, like, the habit and everything hovering over me. I thought I was in purgatory. I'm like, no, you're fine. You just fainted. We're taking you to your room now. They asked me, do you want to share
[00:09:44] [SPEAKER_00] or do you want your own room? I'm like, why would I want to share a room? I want my own room in a hospital. Like, that's, like, a novelty for me. Coming from the United States where medical care is so expensive. I go in, and sitting in the corner was another nun waiting for me. And I thought, that's weird. She didn't speak English, and my German wasn't the best. So the only way we could really communicate was French.
[00:10:12] [SPEAKER_00] I speak multiple languages, so it was fine. She gave me her name. Her name was Sister Bernarda, and she came from a convent in Rouen, France. And I asked her, why are you here? Why are you in this room? I didn't ask for anyone to be with me. She goes, oh, on your intake form, you put that you were Catholic. And I was like, no, I didn't. She's like, well, the person before you clearly isn't here anymore. Do you want me to keep you company?
[00:10:41] [SPEAKER_00] And I thought, at this point, I wouldn't mind having company. I'm in a foreign country all by myself. I wouldn't mind. And she spoke a language that I could speak. So I said, sure. She goes, I'm going to give you a Bible, and we can read the Bible together. I said, okay. Because at this point, my phone had died, and I had nothing else to do. And, you know, I never read the Bible. And I thought it would be interesting to read it.
[00:11:11] [SPEAKER_00] I didn't open the Bible. She just read it to me. But she would sit there for, like, hours, just, like, reading the Bible to me. And I had never asked her to come. I never said that I was Catholic. It was just weird. So I had to get an operation to get rid of the cyst, right? And the doctors, when they went to remove it, said, wow, this is one of the biggest cysts we've ever seen. Do you have a family history?
[00:11:40] [SPEAKER_00] And I said, no, I do not. This is the first time anything like this has ever happened to me. They didn't really have an explanation for why this happened, because all my lab tests were normal. So they had done the operation, and I was slated to go back. So PK went to pick me up. When I was discharged, the nun that was sitting there keeping me company reading the Bible, I didn't see her. So I went to the reception area, and I said, here's this nun. She kept me company throughout the days.
[00:12:09] [SPEAKER_00] I would really like to thank her. She was from this convent. And he goes, oh, we don't know. I don't have any record of that person here. I knew her name. I knew where she came from, what convent she belonged to, that she was a Catholic nun. I could describe what she looked like. Like she was wearing a white habit with navy blue dress. And she was wearing like a wooden cross around her neck that was really big. And she was like maybe in her mid-50s,
[00:12:39] [SPEAKER_00] and she wore glasses. And she had blue eyes. So at this point, I thought I hallucinated everything. But clearly not, because I still had the Bible that she gave me. After that experience, it made me more open. And so when I got sick, my grandma also got sick. We got sick at the same time.
[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_00] And so she called me that day and was like, are you okay? And I'm like, yeah. She goes, well, I had a dream that you passed away. And I'm like, no, I'm fine. I'm here. But I did. Well, I was gone for a few minutes and then I came back. But it's crazy. So I take the Bible with me. PK picks me up and drives me back to the scary apartment. And I still like freezing,
[00:13:36] [SPEAKER_00] which if you're recuperating from like an illness or an operation like I had, you don't want to be in a cold apartment. I had actually made my bed, but my bed had been unmade at this point. So I asked PK like, hey, did you go into my room? He goes, no, you know that I rarely come here. I thought to myself, I wonder why you rarely come here. So in order to light the fire, you need to use like a kitchen match or something. At this point,
[00:14:05] [SPEAKER_00] we had run out of kitchen matches and my roommate, who I told you used to have a lot of lighters, would always have them like on like the coffee table in the living room. So I go there. I remember she had left it there because she said, hey, Kermit, I used the last kitchen matches. Here's a lighter for you to use to light the stove up. I go, the lighter's not there. I search up and down
[00:14:34] [SPEAKER_00] all over this apartment. I couldn't find anything. It was completely missing this lighter that she had specifically left for me. I had to knock on my neighbor's door and ask, hey, can I borrow a kitchen match? And the neighbor said, sure, here it is. Take it. But things would go missing all the time and there'd be no explanation for it. I don't know if it was me projecting, but this Bible
[00:15:03] [SPEAKER_00] would appear in random places. I'd leave it at my desk, which is in my room, which is locked. And then I would come back and I'd find the Bible on our coffee table or I would find it on our kitchen table. And I'd be like, I literally locked my door. How is this Bible moving around? I didn't want to like hurt the Bible or anything, but it freaked me out so bad
[00:15:30] [SPEAKER_00] that I literally put it in my closet and like closed my closet with like a key. And I said, there's no way this Bible will move after I like put it under a bunch of stuff. So it was like all the way in the back. It wasn't like someone could have just like opened my closet door and take it. You'd have to look to find this Bible. So I went to class. I locked my door. I come back
[00:16:00] [SPEAKER_00] after like a long day of classes and the Bible is on my coffee table again. I called my roommate. I was like, are you messing with me? Did you put this Bible here? I was like, actually mad. Like, why would you do that? She's like, Carmen, I've been in class with you all day. There's no way I could have done this. So then I messaged PK and I was like, hey, this is weird, but did you
[00:16:29] [SPEAKER_00] move my Bible to the coffee table? And I said, Carmen, I haven't been to the apartment in a week. So at this point, I think that there's someone in the apartment. We had PK check our apartment again to make sure that there was no one there and there really was no one there, at least physically.
[00:17:06] [SPEAKER_00] So three months in is when really the activity really started ramping up. I had recovered from my cyst. both of us would be like sitting, discussing something or maybe watching TV, me and my roommate, and we would just like see stuff. It'd be like 11 a.m. I'd be in the bathroom and I'd see like an orb of light. I'm like, okay, maybe it's just like the reflection. But I would have turned off the lights and there would have been no lights on. Why am I seeing this orb of light?
[00:17:36] [SPEAKER_00] There was like nothing that could explain what was happening to us. And at this point, I feel like maybe it's this apartment, maybe it's me, but like every time I'm in this apartment for long amounts of time, I just feel drained of energy. And usually when you rest and you stay in your bedroom apartment, which is your home, your home base, you're supposed to feel safe and cozy and like where you can recuperate. I did not feel that in this place
[00:18:06] [SPEAKER_00] at all. It was just like really bad energy, you could say. And I'm not really into energies and stuff, but after this experience kind of changed my perspective, I couldn't find a reason for why I felt this way in this apartment. I would wake up with scratches. I'd wake up with bruises. But I wouldn't wake up in the night, which is weird. If you have bruises and scratches, wouldn't you think that you would wake up in the middle of the night?
[00:18:37] [SPEAKER_00] I would just have the most vivid dreams. I would be in this apartment. There would just be shadows everywhere. I never saw a face. It would just be like these shadow figures just like wandering around following me and I could never get out of this freaking apartment. I would wake up with like three long scratches on my back and I would lock the door to my room and there's like no way I could have scratched
[00:19:06] [SPEAKER_00] my back myself to create such long scratches. I'm like an academic. Like I'm not very sporty. Like there's just no way. And so then I asked my roommate, are you waking up with like bruises and like scratches too? And she goes, yes. So it wasn't just me. There was like something in common which was us living at this apartment. I basically am like
[00:19:36] [SPEAKER_00] so freaked out at this point. I don't know what to do. I thought to myself, I need to leave this place but I couldn't leave this place because there was no other housing available. We can't go up to the university and be like, hey, can you please move us? We think our house is haunted. Who's going to leave us? So we just stuck it out for the whole six months that we were there. So I called my grandma. She's from Spain. And I asked her like,
[00:20:06] [SPEAKER_00] I'm having all these issues. This apartment is really bad. I don't know what to do. She's like, well, you should get a white candle and burn it and keep the window open for the night and I'm sure that will help you. So I go to like my local grocery store. I get the candle. I do what she says. Nothing happens. It still feels the same. Nothing changes. I'm like, whatever. At least I tried.
[00:20:43] [SPEAKER_00] I'm like, I'm like watching a movie. All of a sudden, the temperature just like drops. It's so cold, I can see my breath where before it was just like normal room temperature. I'm like, oh my God, what's happening? So I go out of my room and the rest of the apartment's normal temperature. I'm like, whatever, I'm just going to take a shower and like forget about it. I couldn't sleep. It was so cold. Next thing you know, I wake up because it feels like someone's holding
[00:21:13] [SPEAKER_00] my neck where my cyst was. It feels like that cyst again was coming back because it felt like it was crushing my windpipe. At this point, I'm paralyzed. I can't move. I could see everything but my body was paralyzed and I just see this dark figure which is like really, really tall, really, really long fingers but it didn't have a face. It was like a shadow personified. I couldn't move
[00:21:43] [SPEAKER_00] and I'm like that for like a good, what felt like five minutes but could have been maybe 30 seconds at most. I finally managed to break out of that like paralyzation and I turned the light on and it went away. At this point, I was so freaked out. I slept with the light on. I look up remedies on how to like cleanse your house
[00:22:13] [SPEAKER_00] and one of the remedies online started to burn sage. I needed something to help me cleanse this place because I needed to live here for another couple months and I couldn't live like this anymore. I basically felt like I was being watched in my own home. I couldn't recover and I basically felt like whatever was there was making my health deteriorate. So I go to this little shop. It's the size of a closet. The guy who's there, he is like over six foot tall, really, really pale.
[00:22:41] [SPEAKER_00] He has tattoos, right? And he has an eye of horrors tattoo tattooed in between his brows. He doesn't speak English. He doesn't speak French. He speaks German, but I forgot the German word for sage. So I was like, sorry, do you speak Spanish? And he goes, yes, he spoke the most perfect Spanish that I have ever heard in my life. So he goes back into his storeroom and he brings me out like the largest sage stick imaginable.
[00:23:12] [SPEAKER_00] It's like almost six foot long. It's huge. And I'm like, oh my God, whatever. I need sage. So he looks at me and he has like really big blue eyes. He was like a very imposing figure. Six, seven years later, I still remember what this guy looked like. He looks at me and goes, good luck. So I called my roommate.
[00:23:42] [SPEAKER_00] We were both so freaked out that we didn't go into the apartment by ourselves. We would wait for the other to finish class or finish what they were doing and we'd go in together. I'm basically at a cafe waiting for my roommate to come because I'm scared. I don't want to go into this place by myself. She comes. She's like, okay, we got it. I have my lighter in my pocket. Let's go. So we go into the apartment and we take off our coats and we put it on the coat rack.
[00:24:13] [SPEAKER_00] I start opening everything because I'm like, we need to clean this apartment. We need to cleanse the energy. We need to have good energy here, good vibes only. And so I get the sage stick out of my bag and I'm like, hey, roomie, are you ready? She goes, yep, let me go get the lighter. She couldn't find the lighter and then she says, let me go into my room. I have like five lighters all around my room, some on my nightstand, whatever. I'm like, okay, sure.
[00:24:44] [SPEAKER_00] It's been a few minutes and I'm like, okay, she hasn't come out of her room. So I yell, hey, did you find a lighter? She goes, no. I have like five different lighters in my room and I can't find a single one and I've been tossing my room upside down and I can't find a single lighter. I hadn't gotten into my room yet because it was locked and at this point I was scared. So I was like, hey, maybe I have a lighter in my room. I unlocked my door
[00:25:14] [SPEAKER_00] and the Bible that I had left on my desk was open. and on my bed. I didn't even read what passage it was because it really freaked me out. And then I began searching for a lighter. Of course, we didn't find it. We checked all the corners of the living room. We checked behind the coat rack. We checked in the kitchen. We checked all the kitchen drawers. We basically had to go ask the neighbor
[00:25:44] [SPEAKER_00] for a kitchen match again. This is the same one who I asked before. It was like, are you girls okay? And we're like, yeah, we're fine. The neighbor goes, you girls have been the ones that have lasted the most in that apartment. Most people who stay there, students, only last there for a month before they move out. Oh my God, it makes so much sense because PK would never stay the night. At most,
[00:26:14] [SPEAKER_00] he'd be there 10 minutes in the apartment and then he would leave. and he's our host dad. Like, when you have like a host family for City Broad, you're supposed to do things together, eat lunches and stuff together. We'd always go out to eat with him. We'd never do it like at that space and we had like a really nice functioning kitchen so it was just weird. Is it just our apartment? Like, I don't think it was. I think it was like the whole building that was just had bad energy and that emanated from the basement.
[00:26:43] [SPEAKER_00] At this point, we got the kitchen match. We have all the doors and windows open and the neighbor was like, oh, can I watch this? Why not? The more people, the better. So, I tried lighting it. For the life of me, I couldn't light this lighter. We had to go through like 10 matches before we could light the sage stick. The coat rack,
[00:27:12] [SPEAKER_00] which is by the entryway, by the front door, fell down. It wasn't like a, just one coat fell down. The entire coat rack, which was just like a rack of where you would hang your clothing, fell down and it sounded like a bomb went off. The neighbor who's watching from outside comes into the apartment and is like, are you okay? We're like, yeah, we're fine. The neighbor was like, well, I'm going to go back to my apartment, but knock if you need anything.
[00:27:45] [SPEAKER_00] I don't know if you know this about Germany, but they're very strict and they're very much against like any noises. We had the downstairs neighbor come up and ask us to be quiet and we hadn't done anything except for the coat rack to have fallen. And we're like, well, what are you hearing? And the downstairs neighbor said, I just hear footsteps all the time and it feels like, you know, you're holding parties. We've never held a party in this apartment in our life. The downstairs neighbor clearly didn't believe me, but I'm like,
[00:28:14] [SPEAKER_00] no, I swear to you, we do not invite people over to our apartment. We are at class like all day, every day. And when we do want to have fun, we just go out to like a bar or a club or a restaurant. We don't stay in the apartment. We don't invite people over. She goes, every single night for months, I've been hearing people coming in and out, stomping. I'm just like, I just moved here in January. And I said, before that,
[00:28:44] [SPEAKER_00] it was empty because PK didn't have anyone stay for six months before that. That's what he told us. At this point, me and my roomie, we were just like really freaked out. So many things had happened in the span of like 10 minutes. The stage stick was still burning and we couldn't even like cleanse the apartment. So I start going into all the rooms, cleansing it, starting from like the doorway and going all around
[00:29:14] [SPEAKER_00] in a clockwise motion, going in all the rooms. The smoke from the stage stick, it didn't like dissipate. This is in front of an open window. This smoke accumulated into what I can best describe as, I guess, like a smoke figure. This figure was like over six feet tall, huge. And as we're doing it, I'm like calling
[00:29:44] [SPEAKER_00] my roommate, can you see this? Am I imagining this? And she goes, no, I'm seeing it too. At this point, I thought I was going crazy, but I know I'm not. And I think when you talk about hauntings and stuff like this, you think you're going crazy. You think there's something wrong with you. So as I'm going out throughout the apartment, this smoke figure in my roommate's room, which was kind of scary, all the smoke had gone
[00:30:14] [SPEAKER_00] to her window. It was forming the smoke figure. As I go through the kitchen, which is the final one before I did the whole doorway, as I did the doorway, I could see her room. The smoke figure like stayed there for a moment and then dissipated. But the energy in the apartment still felt the same. As we're like putting up the coat rack, which had fallen, right,
[00:30:44] [SPEAKER_00] by itself, underneath, we found all the lighters in a pile. And before that, we had checked it before we started doing the sage cleansing. At this point, we were really freaked out. The downstairs neighbor said she hears footsteps and parties every night when we're just like in our bed trying to sleep. Like, there's something wrong with this place. It finally felt like, okay,
[00:31:14] [SPEAKER_00] this is finally over. It was not over. I felt like after a few days, it just like ramped up even more. It was so bad that for the next month we shared a room and we basically were so freaked out that sometimes like we would sleep in the same room together. I came in healthy. Mind you, I would eat like three meals a day. It was so bad. I went to my doctor because I had the cyst again. And she goes, oh, Carmen, you're really healthy. Like,
[00:31:44] [SPEAKER_00] I don't know why you're having all these symptoms. You have symptoms of like being in a famine. Like you had like starvation because all my symptoms were if you like didn't eat enough. And I'm like, really? But I eat three meals a day. And my doctor goes, yeah, it's very strange. So at this point, I'm like, I need to move out. I called my dad and basically I got an Airbnb for a week. I felt like I could finally breathe again.
[00:32:13] [SPEAKER_00] But obviously, having an Airbnb in Germany is like expensive. So I had to move back. But I got it for finals week. So before we move out, it's like my second to last day there and it could not have come fast enough to leave this place. And I had to wash my clothing. I used my phone as a flashlight to walk through these storage rooms. But my phone would not turn the flashlight on. It wouldn't even turn on when I was down there.
[00:32:43] [SPEAKER_00] This was like 12 o'clock in the afternoon, okay? This wasn't like at night where it's all creepy, okay? I went during the day like a normal person. I don't want to be freaked out. I was just going during the day where there's sunlight. Of course, it's a basement so it has no windows. So it's pitch black. It's so dark you can't see a hand in front of your face. I go through and it feels like multiple hands are touching my back, trying to grab my arms,
[00:33:13] [SPEAKER_00] my legs, and I can barely walk. Whatever this is wants me to stay here in this basement for what felt like a solid 20 minutes. Maybe it was shorter, but when you're, like it was so pitch black I couldn't see anything around me. I could barely walk because it felt like someone was from the sides and from the ground was like holding on to me. Somehow, somewhere, thank goodness, I managed to escape and I went to the laundry room.
[00:33:44] [SPEAKER_00] My phone still didn't work so I couldn't call anyone, I couldn't text anyone so I did my laundry and then I had to go through that storage space again. I was like, I'm not going there by myself. I waited three hours in that laundry room which had light and a window until someone else from my building came and I asked them to accompany me through that storage space. It was the downstairs neighbor who had come up
[00:34:13] [SPEAKER_00] to ask us to keep it down and to stop throwing parties and she goes, are you okay? I didn't want to come off as crazy and I think she could tell I was freaked out and she goes, hey, if you like need anything you can knock on my door like it's okay. we go back together and I go back upstairs and like a few hours later it's the evening already I go to take a shower and I have like bruises all over my body
[00:34:45] [SPEAKER_00] from whatever was down there in the basement whatever spirits, entities, whatever you want to call it was holding me down. I'm so happy I'm leaving this place. I was leaving the day after so I managed to leave and packed everything up and so I went to go pack the Bible that I always had that the nun gave me couldn't find it I couldn't pack it with me and to this day I still don't know where that Bible is
[00:35:15] [SPEAKER_00] where maybe it's stuck in that apartment maybe it disappeared maybe it was like a ghost Bible that the nun gave me I don't know but I don't know where that Bible is and I do not want to go back to Berlin because Berlin freaked me out so much and that apartment was so scary that I still have nightmares about it. I've never experienced anything before this or after this so I think it was just this place.
[00:35:52] [SPEAKER_02] Thank you Carmen for sharing your experiences with us. This has been one of the eeriest studying abroad stories I've ever heard and if you have a true story that you want to share find our forum over at truescarystory.com Scheduling for this episode was done by Bianca Chavez with editing and sound design by Sarah Voorhees-Wendell from VW Sound Additional production by me Edwin Covarrubias and the Scary FM team. If you're following the show we'll be back next week with another story.
[00:36:22] [SPEAKER_02] Thank you very much for listening. Keep it scary everyone. See you soon.